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Here are some very intresting artikels about the legendary „Bärennase“😎
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Originally posted by fr.jazbec View PostI think we should save some tests of ATC Speakers.
Let‘s begin with some german tests.😉
Da es sich um Class-A-Endstufen handelt, bekommt die ATC SCM50ASLT im Betrieb einen ganz schön heißen Rücken. Einen Standby-Modus ...
Unbeeindruckt von allen Zeitströmungen ist der eigenwillige Aktiv-Monitor ATC SCM 50 ASL einer der besten Lautsprecher seiner Art. Der Test
And an old one, because this is exactly the speaker I use😍
At the end a collection of tests from ATC components
Hope your having fun with the tests of the best audio components in the world.😁
Thanks for sharing
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Originally posted by fr.jazbec View PostI think we should save some tests of ATC Speakers.
Let‘s begin with some german tests.😉
Da es sich um Class-A-Endstufen handelt, bekommt die ATC SCM50ASLT im Betrieb einen ganz schön heißen Rücken. Einen Standby-Modus ...
Unbeeindruckt von allen Zeitströmungen ist der eigenwillige Aktiv-Monitor ATC SCM 50 ASL einer der besten Lautsprecher seiner Art. Der Test
And an old one, because this is exactly the speaker I use😍
At the end a collection of tests from ATC components
Hope your having fun with the tests of the best audio components in the world.😁
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http://www.enjoythemusic.com/superio...ers_Review.htm
They're enormous and functional looking, but ATC's SCM 100A active floorstanders are capable of truly great things
https://www.hifiplus.com/articles/at...aker-hi-fi-80/
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Originally posted by Dogill View PostI wonder if the speakers sold in Germany still have the discrete amps by default as used to be the case.
I just had an offer to change my Seas tweeter into ATC tweeter and the only change at the electric was to change the phasing at the x-over.
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Originally posted by fr.jazbec View Post
Has there anything changed in amplification?
I just had an offer to change my Seas tweeter into ATC tweeter and the only change at the electric was to change the phasing at the x-over.
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Originally posted by 9radua1 View PostNew review of the old SCM19 v1. Not positive but thorough measurements.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.14519/
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Because I'm from Germany I have problems to get (understand)the test in all.
First thing that catches my attention is the 5 foot high measure platform.
Everybody who has this speaker at that height in his listening room, hands up.
After a short time the test was to technical for me with to much diagrams.
So the seconds thing I asked myself, has the tester still ears or only a microphones?
Maybe I go over it, but I miss the circumstances of the room the test was made in.
Sure, a speaker should have a good frequency response , but to reduce all to that?
Speakers are made for people not for microphones,
that is what a aficionado would say, who admitted that he won't get the test in all and don't read it completely!
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Originally posted by Mariner View PostBecause I'm from Germany I have problems to get (understand)the test in all.
First thing that catches my attention is the 5 foot high measure platform.
Everybody who has this speaker at that height in his listening room, hands up.
After a short time the test was to technical for me with to much diagrams.
So the seconds thing I asked myself, has the tester still ears or only a microphones?
Maybe I go over it, but I miss the circumstances of the room the test was made in.
Sure, a speaker should have a good frequency response , but to reduce all to that?
Speakers are made for people not for microphones,
that is what a aficionado would say, who admitted that he won't get the test in all and don't read it completely!
But you are right, in the end what counts is the individual listening impression. Many people criticize this site by being merely technical, though in an expert way.
The review set me off a bit, I must agree, but I am just now listening to some albums and I do like what I am hearing!
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Originally posted by SailorZH View Post
What do the ATC aficionados think about this review? It‘s particularly bothersome as I own exactly the ATC SCM19s v1!
I am not sure how bad the measurements are or were, I am certainly no engineer. It would be nice if ATC could comment in some capacity, perhaps offer some context for the measurement data.
Regardless, the reviewer just did not get on well with them. This is fine, not everyone will like them for whatever reasons. And I do think from other reviews I’ve read that Amir is consistent in his approach.
I can understand if the review has perhaps ‘spooked’ you and if you are now questioning your speaker choice.
The thing is, I bet before the review - and likely for years - you have been getting lots of pleasure from listening to them. So keep enjoying and it sounds like you are!
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Originally posted by AlastairH View Post
I tried to read all 29 pages of that post but lost the will to live....
I am not sure how bad the measurements are or were, I am certainly no engineer. It would be nice if ATC could comment in some capacity, perhaps offer some context for the measurement data.
Regardless, the reviewer just did not get on well with them. This is fine, not everyone will like them for whatever reasons. And I do think from other reviews I’ve read that Amir is consistent in his approach.
I can understand if the review has perhaps ‘spooked’ you and if you are now questioning your speaker choice.
The thing is, I bet before the review - and likely for years - you have been getting lots of pleasure from listening to them. So keep enjoying and it sounds like you are!! But, of course, I didn‘t!
Interestingly, though, I guess there were a few ATC users (that‘s my guess) mentioning the SCM19s advantage of being a closed design. I do hate those over-driven speakers with a bass port firing straight at the wall and causing an oomph oomph oomph sound. I very much like the 19‘s lean sound!
So all good! I am with the 19s and I am enjoying them truly!
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Originally posted by SailorZH View Post
The thread is somewhat daunting, indeed!
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While the test results may be an accurate analysis of that individual speaker, one wonders why Amir chose to examine a 7yr old speaker and what enquiries were made to ensure it was a representative sample?
I don't have any experience with the SCM19 mk1 - I still own the mk2 version and it is an amazing sounding speaker.
I think ASR is a valuable resource but its kind of ugly how the members swarm to a 'bad' review and relish piling on the criticism - most with no experience of the product or knowledge to properly understand the real world weight of the criticism.
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